Only we can act effectively against miniature recasting! This sort of effect makes even more sense in model games, particularly WH. Its very easy to make an illegal copy of a miniature, especially if the country where its made has bad labour policies. We are always keen to ensure continuous improvement of our processes, so you will be involved in researching and identifying new ways for Games Workshop to approach infringing and counterfeit product removal and implementing improvements to the infringements process.. Shall I summon the serf dedicated to worshiping the shavings from your glorious toenails, milord? And dont forget about the spacedwarfs aka squats. However, it is unknown if sellers have been similarly notified or if there is just a lull in listings. The resin *can* be toxic, but buying from larger recasters is safe. Big mistake to highlight just one country for recasting. Back in 2018, we saw a similar scene as well: So it appears after raising their prices on Forge World overnight by 20%, or more in some cases, Games Workshop may have started to go after Warhammer recaster companies located in China directly this holiday season. Its inevitable anyways in the next 5 years with 3D printing. One must ask whats in the customers best interest? A quick check of eBay appeared to turn up way fewer listings for "Forge World" than last week at this time. GW also has a massive network of stores. That is crazy for such a quality. The people who are buying the recasts are ruining the hobby for the simple reason they are are robbing the people who bring these sculptures to life for us, without out these creative people this hobby wont survive, so are slowly killing it, why would companies carry on if someone is going to rip them off, a lot of these companies are small industries they can not take the financial hit, they are entitled to make an honest living by buying off the pirates, you are steeling money from the people you admire, else why would you be buying the figure in the first place, no doubt the scum who buy these are the same who dont pay for their music and probably have a stash of rip off DVDs too, stop being cheap skates support the talent or loose it. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'spikeybits_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_9',634,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-spikeybits_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0');Mix Your Paint In Seconds! With those numbers the hobby will never die, thats amazing! For the sake of this report, we have acquired a couple of Chinese illegal recasts as well as their respective originals, and we are going toshow you in detail why there is no point at all in buying these pieces of bad plastic. Youre a thief. Ive never bought from a recaster, but I know many who do. Find, rate and share the best memes and images. A movement has started to help raise awareness about the loss of income these folks have started to experience recently. For the good health of our hobby. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. They tried to go public to get quick capitol and ended up eating it. Save Money On All These Alternative Miniatures. They stole the right to complain about re-castes when they demand unreasonable prices, and thus stealing the joy of the hobby. u go to china to get the product made why do you deserve protection from western copy right laws ? As Alchemy said, they drive more new hobbyists away by doing it in this and inevitably lose out of profit in the long run. You are completely right about this. Lets look at Netflix, people didnt think streaming would have as big of an effect as it did as before that everyone blamed everything on pirating. The 9th Edition of 40k is going to be open and crowd sourced by the players, for the players, for the betterment of the game instead of lining GWs pockets. Here's his speech in full to read all at once. @Italeri Games Workshop prices are high, but they are not massively greater than companies like Knight Models. Try again. The other aspect is quality of product, I know a lot of LoTR players would rather buy metal recasts from ebay rather than finecast versions of originally metal models from gw (basically all the elite troops were switched from metal to finecast when finecast first came out, so its not even the improved finecast). I hope the author never watches streaming movies or mp3s. I have no remorse whatsoever for GW. Not the original miniature companies.. So if people in the third world cant pay western prices having recasts means more of a hobby presence that pushes those who value original source into an ongoing if not growing stream of business. This had to be done because it was nearly impossible to identify many of the pieces that came attached to large blobs of resin. I dont agree with that it is stealing, its models I would never buy anyway. e.g. We are saying to watch out for recasts of other artists personal work. Ill never buy legitimate versions now with the re casts being so good from where I get them from. 256. r/Warhammer40k. Appealing to modelers if futile in my opinion, there is not enough power in that argument to change buying habits. But there is a thing Id wish to point out, its the Chinese stigmatisation I am french living in China for about ten years now, and Chinese bashing is just a constant thing I hear from most of westerners and is absolutely not right either. After that no surprise if some brands get copied in the first place, that kind of behavior and answer has no place in a world where international trades are a thing. You are absolutely right and I agree with you (but I like, and buying, many expensive figures). Just saying individuals like that who do that have no moral compass. And when issues of copyright are at stake, it fascinates me how Nuts planets are ripping off HBO with game of thrones piracy, yet they are the most in vogue celebrated manufacturer. But, from my experience, smaller manufactures like Andrea, and Pegaso, and Scibor, and Blacksmith, etc. If you plan on punishing players (and I mean PUNISH them) when you compare what you offer for what other reasonable vendors offer, you find re-castes are a result of your own actions. FWs resin is also crap and brittle, not sure what your point is there. I have a motto I live by it.regarding others if you lie,you can cheat,cheat you can steal, steal you can.lets just say theres many cases of some folks needing something bad ,dont have the money and try and steal for itthings escalate and then murder becomes involved. Recast popularity reflects that or they would not keep popping up. Recommended Products For The Miniatures Hobby! Take these smaller companies making stunning models for half the price or even less, how is that possible? Adding on to what Shane Rozzell have said and more direct. Recasts: 3 reasons why we need to avoid illegal or unauthorized Amazing D&D Fantasy diorama tabletop terrain. GW has serious plastic and great details, FW does not. Man, either you are some kid, troll or just an idiot with no capacity to think logically. They are the backbone of the operation and have done this for years to create wonderful minis as well as a great line of paints. I have to necro a bit here. My FLGS has 20 tables filled with terrain whereas the GW has two tables in a tiny store away from any major shopping areas. I totally understand how the purchasing of recasts of existing stock is hurting miniature companies, but what do you think about the recasting of long out of production (10 years plus) miniatures? "R" refreshes comments. They were producing beautiful miniatures (crazy complicated game) but they were cut the margins too thinly. that is a crap attitude, and glad I dont know you and have anything to do with you. Quality of some recasters is much higher than Forgeworld. There are precedents in Russia where local manufacturers took re casters to court and won damages, so it isnt an issue of legal vacuum in those countries, its inability or non willingness to pursue action. I love the crocodile tears about the indie companies. I also dont really care that much, GW killed warhammer fantasy so I dont mind if they get whats coming to them. Personally I would like to see new players pick it up and have the hobby flourish. Continue with Recommended Cookies, A major recaster in China is closing up shop after being contacted by Games Workshop regarding their Warhammer. Just saying, this argument is fail. We arent saying you shouldnt buy alternate versions of models that you can use in your tabletop games. even once all my returns have been replaced by forgeworld the model is still of a lower quality than the recast. There are many families, people and brands that struggle hard every day to bring you new and spectacular figures and products. Copies from recasters, most of the time from China, are at first glance an option to acquire otherwise expensive miniatures at affordable prices. Their miniatures are good-quality. is it going to cause the game to completely vanish if the company were to shut down ? as you seem to be proud of the fact you steal form these companies. Cheers. Everyone knows about them. But Netflix absorbed a lot of people, including the extremely low population of pirates, who just wanted a reasonable price for what they wanted. This really rips ma knitting this! And we wouldnt want you to go through that. These artists work hard. Whats the actual law being broken when trading for a recast model? These companies do not pay any IP rights. So as far as Im concerned welcome to freakin reality; where everything is as shodily made as they can get away with and consumers will seek in the inevitable tug of war to get the most value for the very sacrifice of their lives for the slim hope that they might spend some of it in enjoyable repast. All I can say is that the metal quality is horrible. Changed their name many times, now operating via email sending emails with links to the actual catalog. Too draconian prices. Without remorse, there was a supplier that recasted the catalog of Games Workshop and Forgeworld reselling it at a ridiculous price. In the case of this piece, originally from Forgeworld, I had a small problem with the recasters. You will create reports for the business to be discussed at monthly infringement meetings. Greedy company? CCoN has lower inventory variety and higher cost, but he's cheapest when he has a sale and it's really good quality. Many other companies offer products as good as theirs or even better for a lower price. Right now, a few companies simply stopped selling to Russia as their figures instantly get listed on pirated stores. So, no, thats straight up greed, and while morally not as bad as 700% increase on the cost of pharmaceuticals, its the same mindset. And what about the companies (from small to big) that produce miniatures based on comics/movies/books/games/characters/ without paying for a license? We pay so that the company we like so much is able to surpriseus again in the future with yet another piece to continue enjoying our hobby. We exploit our environment by our very nature and capitals need for constant continual acceleration in exploitation was never sustainable to start with. FJ was developed by a multicultural team of various beliefs. There are MANY legitimate streaming options that are legal and same for MP3s. Z Catalog Recast. Prisons are filled with thieves. LET THEM sink. 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